Keim and to another family whose son was marrying the girl in the turquoise dress above. I was extremely disappointed in the entire show. It was not that revealing. Left So much unsaid.
Hi Mylene, I have not seen the full program but going by the appearance I would say that the grey-haired gentleman was not actually an Old Order Amish person. I gathered that he was perhaps Mennonite or had Amish roots. As to your question some Amish actually do trim their beards. More conservative Amish are less likely to do so, however. Beth, good point—and on catching the show, Kim I believe it has already aired but there is another showing Wed Nov 17 at 4pm, according to the site.
I have not seen the full show, only this clip—did you mean they focused mainly on the Mary Gingerich who is seen in this segment? That seems odd that it would be more about ex-Amish, especially since it is billed as being about the Amish and most of this clip is on the Amish. I particularly found how they addressed bed courtship to be interesting. I know some Amish that are pretty adamant about bed courtship. A subtle point I appreciated was that they noted that after graduating 8th grade, interaction with the opposite sex drops off until joining a youth group.
It is actually something I have not thought of before but I suppose this would be true, at least to a degree-not having the interaction at school though there would still be other venues. Very interesting but it has really left me asking more questions, LOL. I think the buggies may have been racing as the gentleman with the white hair and beard made reference to racing at the time the clip was being shown.
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Not really sure of what the couple holding hands is all about. It almost seemed phoney, but at that time the ex Amish girl was saying how hand holding was allowed. We seem to have a lot of that in public medias today, not just against the Amish but against Christianity in general. I have not see the full show and am only getting these impressions from this small clip. Thanks for sharing Erik!! It will be interesting to see what others feel from this as well.
Love and Courtship…Amish Style
The young lady with the light yellow dress seems so Fashion Forward just look at her sleeves and her boyfriend does as well. They make a cute couple. Thanks E for posting Anthro. Michelle V from FL. I agree with you Erik. But I sort of got the feeling throughout the clip that it was slanted against the Amish way of life, not just by the ex Amish woman.
Courting is similar to dating, but it is done with more purpose.
Like you I can not recall either if it was stated regarding baptism or the time she left the Amish. I hope I can get to see the entire program too. If the marriage could not produce children, the family ran the risk of losing their farm if the parents could not produce farm workers - their economy would not allow the expense of hiring them. The Amish are above all farmers - perhaps they inherited a similar practice from their Dutch heritage. It is possible to have those historical influences still apparent among the Amish because they are all about the "forefathers" and tradition.
Unquestioning obedience is the reason given for most things which are seemingly inexplicable and contrary to their "Christian" POV. I jioned the Amish , swartzentruber, I was passing out and talking against the bed courtship,started a group of young people that were not doing the preacher's found out, said we have to do it, because is an old custom and tradition do not want to change, I said I will not help with communion until they allowed to do at the Bible teaches, they gave me two weeks to say sorry for having brought the subject up never bring it up again and promise to do as they did, I could not do this I was banned two weeks later.
I still like the Amish Way of life and live that way but not bed courtship if I had children I would not want them doing bed courtship is too much of a temptation. Thank you for sharing your experience, David. Many other former Amish have felt the same way and have left because of bed courtship. I read that they started doing bed courtship because it was the only warm place in the house in the late evening.
That way they could talk comfortably under the covers fully dressed. Linda, in theory that is what even our pioneer ancestors tried thus the "bundling board" which was supposed to guarantee no monkey shines going on , however, as you can read from the comments posted here, the strict Amish groups have strayed beyond the bundling board concept.
She really shares some thoughts about her days of bed courstship. Yes, I know I have a minor in German: But among the Amish, the word "Dutch" is used like slang--short for Pennsylvania-Dutch, which is derived from the word "Deitch", which was derived from the German word for German which is Deutch, as you pointed out. But it does confuse English folks who first think of the word "Dutch" as being folks from the Netherlands. Further confusing the issue is the fact that the Amish were Alsatian from France--near the border of Germany originally, but joined churches with the Swiss.
But then there was a schism, and, well, the Mennonites and Amish were born. They have a complicated history and a complicated way of life. Thank you for your comment, Kimberly. I am a Christian and a homeschooler and my opinions are far to the right, much more conservative than most anyone I know. My son has never been exposed to sexually explicit movies, tv or music.
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I am very glad to say he has no idea still about what is out there in the world including pornography. I have guarded his innocence and purity and strongly feel, as the scripture states, that we should not prematurely awaken youthful lust. I just don't want the thoughts, images, ideas etc put in his head. That night the couple will attend singing and invite friends to attend their wedding.
Love and CourtshipAmish Style - Amish Wisdom
The man travels in his buggy that same night into different districts to invite special friends and family. The man starts to grow out his beard symbolizing the marriage ring Kraybill, The couple will then appear in public as a couple Stevick, If a girl were to become pregnant, she must marry the father, unless he is not Amish Kraybill, Cooking begins the day before the wedding and horse drawn carriages deliver benches, hymn books, dishes, and chairs to prepare for a wedding ceremony that will last for 3 hours Stevick, The bride and groom wear the same clothing they wear to church only it is new.
The bride traditionally wears navy blue, teal, or purple and a black cap to symbolize her singleness. The groom and his two best men wear black or white. The church service is similar to a regular church service except the song contents are related to marriage Stevick, During the ceremony the bride steps over a broom to symbolize her new life Weiner-Johnson, The tables are arranged in two long rows in a shape of the letter L and at the bend in the table the bride and groom sit surrounded with the best feast foods Stevick, Divorce is not allowed and the expectations are that the couple will bear between children to ensure that the religion flourishes.
Having experienced living among the Amish, it has been interesting to observe their strong religious beliefs, and customs and traditions that seem to continue to flourish and thrive. John Hopkins UP,